I have been trying to convince a few people on the merits of OUR new car. One thing that I keep bringing up and that they rarely think of is "How many things does Aptera NOT have that are present in most ICE cars. I will list a few. Drive Train Radiator AC Does Air Conditioning count? Oil ? Does an Aptera even use Oil. Certainly no transmission fluid. Mud Flaps ? Humm. Maybe you still need those but I'm thinking not. Tachometer ? Certainly not needed. I guess those are electronic now, so scratch this one. Sure hope Mirrors make it to that list. All of this adds up to Savings for us in Weight, Cost, maintenance and MPW (Miles per Watt) ). It would be nice to see a little spreadsheet thing that I can send to them or at least mail an image. Get Sandy to lay out all those parts from his current break down project on the floor. Count them and take a picture. Then I have to also point out that Both have batteries. Ours is a way lot more in number. And whatever electronics required to charge them. Probably no Alternator though. OOOO I almost forgot Gas Tank, associated delivery, gages and electronics, PLUS the weight of 12 Gal or more of fuel. Remind me. How many gallons on average of gas does it take to drive 1K miles and what is the mileage cost of the weight per mile? ( a U.S. gallon of Gas weighs 6.1 pounds and an Imperial Gallon weighs 7.2 pounds ) Can't quite shove that much gas into an average car. So, assume you drive 1000. How much time did you have to take an exit and entry, then pump gas. Yeah! I know. Got to stop and eat, and other stuff. OOOrrr... do I ? On the we have that they don't side Charging system Heads up Display Pushing on this. Most of theirs don't have it either. Solve the controversy. Put it in. Dash Cam OK. I'm lobbying for a designed in Dash Cam and heads up display. This would make a nice little Aptera Intern's task. Should help sell people though.